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Michael Dunahee, Missing Since 1991, and Norma's 2022 Account: A New Theory

By: Shane Lambert
Original time of writing: March 10th to 17th, 2025

Michael Dunahee's Disappearance: Toward a New Hypothesis

Michael Dunahee, a four-year-old boy from Victoria, British Columbia, vanished without much of a trace on March 24th, 1991. On the day of his disappearance, which was a Sunday, he was playing at a playground near Blanshard Elementary School. This was during a family outing,  his parents were nearby, and the father was participating in a sports match that his mother watched.


Unraveling Canada’s Most Infamous Missing Child Mystery

The case is one of the enduring unsolved mysteries in Canada that involves a missing person. I would call it Vancouver Island's most famous case, perhaps only rivaled by the more modern case of Emma Fillipoff. Each case does extend beyond localities. In particular, the disappearance of Michael Dunahee might be the most famous unsolved case, perhaps even in Canadian history.

But despite exhaustive efforts, the case remains unsolved, and over three decades have passed. Over the years, countless tips and witness accounts have emerged.

This includes a tip from an elderly woman named Norma. In 2022, she emerged as an eyewitness to the abduction of Michael Dunahee, and perhaps her recollection offers a potential clue to what transpired that day back in March of 1991.

Eyewitness Breakthrough: Norma’s Shocking 2022 Revelation

Norma, who was 81 years old in 2022, would have been in her early 50s at the time of the abduction. She believes she saw part of what happened near Blanshard Elementary School that day.

In 2022, she recounted her memories of a young woman grabbing a blonde, blue-eyed boy wearing colorful pants by the arm. This does match the description of Michael Dunahee, including the clothes that he wore. Norma said the young woman took Michael across Wark Street toward a back alley. Additionally, Norma described a brown van, beige on top and darker below, which she linked to the event.

Clues Under Hypnosis: Digging Into Norma’s Memory

Authorities took her account seriously, which I think was the right to do. In my opinion, when a case is cold, then it only makes sense to treat someone seriously if they offer an eyewitness account unless given a reason not to.

On that matter, Norma underwent hypnosis to recall specific details, such as the van’s license plate, as part of the investigation. However, if she ever knew the plate, this was not a detail that she was able to reveal.

In this article, the woman Norma claims to have seen will be called "Mystery Woman." Furthermore, this article will proceed as though Norma's account of what she saw is genuine and that the boy being led away was, in fact, Michael. Importantly, this is a detail that isn't absolutely authenticated but I think that's the best way to proceed in the absence of any other leads in this otherwise cold case.

The Tackle That Changed Everything: Norma’s Recall

I took the following statements of Norma's from a CityNews article (March 8th, 2022/Hana Mae Nassar). They are believed to pertain to the Michael Dunahee abduction. They include the Mystery Woman and another figure, who I will call The Man in the Van.


Exact Quote Paraphrase & Relevance
1 “I would hate to have to pass on and not know where that child is. It’s just not right. That poor little boy. And that’s my fault too, because I didn’t know what was happening,” she said. Paraphrase: Norma feels guilty and desperate to know Michael’s fate, blaming herself for not recognizing the abduction at the time.

Relevance: Establishes her emotional stake and motivation for coming forward 30 years later, framing her as a regretful witness.
2 “I’m driving down Wark Street and I see this young lad running kitty corner, across the park there, the front lawn. And then I see another one running right behind him and I said, ‘Oh boy, I better watch those kids.' The little one at the front ran across the street. She — the person behind him — was running and she dove at him and she grabbed him by the legs and pulled him down. So she tackled him just like playing football. And he went down hard. And I thought 'little bums', you know, kids, right?,” she recalled of that day, noting what she remembers still haunts her 30 years on. Paraphrase: Norma claims she saw a boy running, chased, and tackled by someone she initially thought was a kid, only realizing later it was serious.

Relevance: A potential core eyewitness account of the abduction, describing the physical act she believes involved Michael.
3 “So she gets up and grabs the little guy by the arm and she marches him across in front of me on Wark Street,” she recalled. Paraphrase: The woman stood up, took the boy by the arm, and led him across the street in front of Norma’s car.

Relevance: Details the next step of the abduction, showing control over the boy and movement toward a specific direction, critical for tracing events.
4 “I looked at the boy and he had blonde hair, blue eyes, and he was being pulled. He had these bright coloured pants on like different colours, blues and yellows and reds,” Norma said. Paraphrase: Norma noticed the boy had blonde hair, blue eyes, and colorful pants as he was being dragged.

Relevance: Matches Michael Dunahee’s description (blonde, blue-eyed, colorful clothing), strengthening her claim of witnessing him specifically.
5 “Then they started to walk down King and I looked over and there was a back alley type thing over there. And there was this brown van, it was parked there. The guy was standing on the outside, holding his driver’s door open looking at the situation. The side door was flung open and there was a brownie coloured blanket hanging out of the van,” she continued. Paraphrase: They walked toward King Street, where Norma saw a brown van with a man by the driver’s door and an open side door with a blanket hanging out.

Relevance: Introduces the van and a second suspect (The Man in the Van), suggesting a planned abduction with a getaway vehicle, a key lead in the case.
6 “One of the reasons I moved was because of that, because I couldn’t drive down Bay Street and go past Wark. I couldn’t go down King Street. It was a nightmare in my head. I couldn’t do it. It’s haunting me because I didn’t do something about it. I didn’t help that little guy.” Paraphrase: Norma moved away because the memory of not helping the boy haunted her whenever she drove near the abduction site.
Relevance: Highlights the psychological toll on her, reinforcing her credibility as a witness deeply affected by what she saw, and her inaction as a lingering regret.

The Van Debate: Chevy or Ford in Michael’s Abduction?

The presence of a brown van is interesting. This is a topic that I looked at in another blog post on this website a few years ago. I published that post before Norma arose as a potential eyewitness.

But there was another witness, one who was ten years old, who drew a picture of a van that she claimed Michael went into. In my opinion, the picture the child drew resembles a 1981 Chevrolet P30 Grumman Step Van. According to modern artificial intelligence, my guess on the van was likely right.

However, the CityNews article that recounts Norma's memory shows a vehicle that is meant to resemble the one she saw. This picture would more likely depict a Ford Econoline Van from the mid-1960s.

A Ford Econoline looks different than a 1981 Chevrolet P30 Grumman Step Van. But this is a matter that can be sidestepped.

I don't know whose account to go with, the account of a 10-year-old who drew a picture pretty fresh from memory or the account of an 81-year-old remembering details from more than 30 years prior. For the sake of proceeding, I will consider the van to be real and part of the abduction and set aside the debate of the year, make, and model.

Why an Old Van Spells Trouble for This Case

Regardless, of which model you go with, an interesting point arises. 

The abduction of Michael Dunahee took place in 1991. But the newest of the vehicle models is possibly from 1981 with the Econoline possibly being much older.

That suggests that the owner owned the vehicle for quite some time, discounting second-hand purchases. Either vehicle is the type of vehicle that does not provide clear visual access to the back area. I think that would make them more attractive to those planning clandestine activities.

Mystery Woman Unveiled: A Rare Female Abductor?

One thing that really stood out to me with Norma's abduction depiction is the age of the Mystery Woman. Firstly, Norma felt that she was looking at another child. However, when she got a closer look at the Mystery Woman, she came to the opinion that she was looking at a young woman, aged 18-25.

When dealing with non-family abduction, there are not many known child abductors who fit this description. Throwing out custody battle abductions between parents, the prototype of a child abductor in Canada is a man in his 30s or 40s. The Mystery Woman is much younger and a different sex than what is typical.

Stats vs. Reality: Does Gender Flip the Script?

As for official studies, one study known as "Abducted then Murdered Children: A Canadian Study" from 2016 analyzed 93 cases of non-family abduction in Canada. The study found that 92% of the abductors were male. The Mystery Woman does not fit the typical profile of an abductor -- but yes, there is that 8% to think about.

The Mystery Woman's demographics have always struck me as odd. Since Norma originally thought the Mystery Woman was a child, my thoughts have always taken me toward the lower end of the age range, that being an 18-20-year-old. A female abductor is rare in Canada but, using that range, an 18-20-year-old woman abducting a child by herself is even more rare.

The Missing Link: Why Women Rarely Abduct Alone

When it comes to studies involving crimes, there is a major limitation: lots of crimes simply don't enter the statistical records. But one driving force behind abductions is the male sex drive. That could explain why we see more men as abductors than women.

In the time I had to prepare this blog post, I couldn't find a case of a woman aged 18-25 acting alone in child abduction. This suggests that it is either extremely rare or not publicly reported on as much. My research is largely digital so some relevant cases might not be digital yet. But in researching this, I used AI extensively and nothing turned up.

Yet, close examples or near examples are out there. News searches for terms like "young male child abductor Canada," "18-25 male abductor Canada," and "teenage male child abduction Canada" yielded cases such as Nicole Shanks. She abducted a baby in 2021 but she was 32 years old (Woman who snatched 8-day-old baby found not criminally responsible/CBC News article/March 17th, 2022).

Another case involved a 56-year-old woman abducting a child from a babysitter in 2021 (Steinbach RCMP locate abducted child RCMP news), far outside the age range I was looking for. I do think there is probably an example out there of an 18-25-year-old female abducting a child while acting alone in Canada. But, if that example is out there, it evaded my research. 

The Man in the Van: A Dark Puppet Master?

That it's extremely difficult to find an example is all that's relevant to me. It led me to an assumption, which I am going to put in the "Take it or leave it" category, a simple assumption, admittedly problematic, and not supported by concrete evidence -- and yet probably correct in my opinion.

In the case of Michael Dunahee, in my opinion, there is a man in the van. This would be the same man and van that Norma recounted.

Getting back to the Ford Econoline Van or Chevy Step Van, there is probably a man sitting in it who has control over the Mystery Woman. He is supervising and managing the abduction, which is all his brainwave. He is using the Mystery Woman as a buffer. If things go wrong, The Man in the Van is going to hightail it and let the Mystery Woman deal with the authorities on the matter.

Stockholm Syndrome Twist: From Villain to Victim

If she is only 18-20 years old, then my guess is that the Mystery Woman is a former child abductee herself. Even if she is older, then she could be.

I would guess that The Man in the Van kidnapped her sometime after 1981, the year of the vehicle that I have presumed to be a Chevy Step Van. The Mystery Woman has been brainwashed since being abducted, she had all kinds of mental problems in 1991, and those problems probably include Stockholm Syndrome.

This syndrome, Stockholm Syndrome, is a psychological phenomenon where hostages or victims of a crime develop a bond with their captors, often displaying sympathy, loyalty, or even affection toward them despite the danger or abuse they endure. The term originated from a Norrmalmstorg bank robbery in 1973.

In that robbery, Jan-Erik Olsson attempted to rob Kreditbanken, taking four employees hostage after police intervened. Over six days, the hostages—Birgitta Lundblad, Elisabeth Oldgren, Kristin Enmark, and Sven Säfström—were held in the bank's vault. Some of them expressed trust in their captors, fearing police tactics more, and even requested the police to leave.

Stockholm Syndrome: Abduction Cases

The bonds are hard to understand but could simply be part of human evolution, like everything else about us. It might be to the general advantage of a captive to find his/her captor endearing because it might pay to be on that person's good side while in their custody.

Stockholm Syndrome has been used more broadly in the decades since the bank robbery in Sweden. Anyone captive might develop it, even in contexts outside of hostage situations. I think the Mystery Woman is a former child abductee who developed Stockholm Syndrome after coming under the custody of her abductor. I think that's why she is out tackling a kid and luring him toward a van with a man waiting. This is something that women aged 18-25 don't normally otherwise do.

Real-Life Parallels and Variance in Abductee Behaviors: Stayner and Hearst Connections

I didn't find a known example of an abducted child later helping his/her own abductor perform a subsequent abduction. However, I do know of a near-example: Steven Stayner, an American example.

A pedophile named Kenneth Parnell abducted Steven Stayner, who was seven years old at the time, in 1972. Parnell raised Stayner as his own child until 1980.

Around then, Parnell had solicited Stayner’s help in abducting another child but this is where there is a change. Stayner refused to help, Parnell abducted another child anyway, and then Stayner took that child, Timothy White, to the authorities. This led to everything unraveling for Parnell

The example connects to The Mystery Woman and The Man in the Van, as I've hypothesized them because it's a real-life example that shows that an abductor might solicit help from a former abductee.

Star Tribune. March 3rd, 1980.


Patty Hearst Example

I did find another example in the USA that is worth looking at (clipping on marginal is from June 12th, 1974 edition of Garden City Telegram.

Patty Hearst was 19 years old when the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA) abducted her in February 1974. Between that time and her arrest in 1975, she aided the SLA as they committed their crimes. 

Her defense argued she developed Stockholm Syndrome, she was convicted anyway, and she spent time in prison before Jimmy Carter commuted her. In 2001, Bill Clinton granted her a full pardon. Her case remains a notable example of abduction and the psychological complexities that resulted.






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Profiling the Mystery Woman: Who Is She Really?


Attribute Details
Sex Female
Age 18-25 (as of March 24th, 1991) (presumed based on Norma's account); my inclination is that The Mystery Woman is 18-20.
Birthdate Range March 25th, 1966 - March 24th, 1973 (calculated based on her estimated age on the date of Michael Dunahee's abduction, using Norma's description); March 25th, 1970 - March 24th, 1973 if she is 18-20.
Role Suspected abductor of a boy, presumably Michael Dunahee; by eyewitness account. She has been described as tackling Dunahee and to have ushered him away from the Blanshard Elementary School playground.
Additional Context Seen heading toward a beige and brown van, which I have assumed to be either a Ford Econoline Van or a P30 Grumman 1981 Chevy Step Van (unconfirmed).
Psychological Note May have Stockholm Syndrome, resulting from being abducted and raised by her abductor, presumably The Man in the Van.

Could She Be Out There? An Appeal to the Mystery Woman

There are missing girls in Canada that fit the birthdate range. I've looked at them but decided not to start listing names because this is all speculative. But I do think an appeal is worth making, even if The Mystery Woman is not firmly grounded in anything except Norma's account. My reasoning is simply that it couldn't hurt.

If the reader is The Mystery Woman, then I think there will be public sympathy for you if you were a child abductee yourself. There was public sympathy for Patty Hearst, even though she participated in crimes.

If you, The Mystery Woman, are reading this, then I would think that you could contact the police and reveal what you know, maybe even after preparing a statement with a lawyer. In doing so, two unsolved missing child mysteries might be solved.

Next Steps: Norma’s Role

Then there's Norma, the witness. If it has not been done already, I think she should look at the pictures of missing girls in Canada who were born between March 25th, 1966, and March 24th, 1973 to see if any of them resembled The Mystery Woman at all.

This is actionable without much effort. As stated, I don't want to start listing missing children with birthdates that overlap with The Mystery Woman's because of the false hope it could create.

I don't want to oversell my opinion. I realized every time I made an assumption, there was a chance that I went down a rabbit hole with no rabbit in it. But I still think this angle is worth being a part of the theories regarding Michael's disappearance in a case that is cold and has drained police budgets.

The Unsolved Disappearance of Karen Louise Wilson - Missing Since March 1985

Missing Person: Karen Louise Wilson



Details from a government source (might be paraphrased): Wilson was last seen leaving The Tanning Hut on 1670 Central Ave - Colonie, NY at 7:20PM. A sighting of her walking down Fuller Rd in Colonie, NY (towards the SUNY Albany campus), was reported.

Last contact: March 27th, 1985, at 7:20PM according to NamUs. But there is a report that says she was seen almost an hour after that.
Last location: Colonie, New York, supposedly leaving a store called The Tanning Hut. More correctly, there was a government source that said that three separate individuals saw her that night and the sightings are considered credible.
Age when Karen Louise Wilson disappeared: 22
DOB: February 10th, 1963 but might be Feb. 2, 1963
Sex: Female
Height in inches: 63
Weight in pounds (lbs): 114
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Hair color: Brown, shoulder/medium length
Eye Color: Brown
Scar or distinctive characteristic: Nothing noted.
Link to Government Source: MP5695 (right-click to open)

Online information page: Karen Louise Wilson (right-click to open)

BMI means body mass index. It is meant to describe someone's healthy body weight relative to the individual's height. It is only food for thought because it does not account for all body types.

Karen Louise Wilson had a BMI of 20.19.

She was at a healthy weight by BMI standards at the time of her disappearance.

Karen Wilson, Missing Person Case: Last Known Clothing and Accessories Details

When Karen Louise Wilson was last seen on March 27th, 1985, in Colonie, New York, she was wearing faded Levi blue jeans, a light blue short-sleeve pullover Izod shirt, and a 3/4 length cream-colored women's raincoat. Her footwear consisted of sneakers and she may have been wearing glasses.

Her accessories included a size 5 1/2 14K gold ring with a blue stone (possibly zircon), a Seiko watch with a black face, plastic earrings, and a two-strand yellow and white necklace. Karen carried a gray cloth pocketbook containing a blue nylon wallet with Velcro, a white and green plastic bag from "Ups N Downs", and a blue knapsack holding a yellow dress.

Commentary and Research

By: Shane Lambert
Original time of writing: March 8th, 2025

Has Karen Louise Wilson been found?

Karen Louise Wilson remains missing. She was last seen in 1985 after leaving a business that I presume is a tanning salon, based on the name and increase in popularity for such businesses during that time frame.

They do have a composite sketch of an individual. At NamUs, he is described as someone who was in the area. Presumably, the authorities had a good reason to associate his likeness with the case.



What stood out to me with this case is the chance that Karen, the missing person, attracted a stalker on the night that she disappeared. She was at a tanning salon, she had a healthy BMI, I think a lot of men would describe her as attractive based on her photos, and she was in her early 20s.

Furthermore, from what I read, nothing suggested that she was in a friend's or relative's company. And then just the fact that there's a composite sketch of a male associated with the case made me think that she was likely stalked on the night she disappeared.

Karen's last known location wasn't really The Tanning Hut, as described at NamUs. Another government source has a PDF file online that details three eyewitness accounts of Karen's movements well after she left The Tanning Salon.


Karen Wilson Disappearance: Eyewitness Accounts from March 27, 1985


On March 27th, 1985, Karen Wilson, a SUNY Albany student, was last seen in Colonie, NY, through three eyewitness accounts along Fuller Road. At 8:15 PM, Witness #1 spotted her walking south near Sysco Food. In the area, there was also a slow-moving vehicle driven by a white male in his 40s with a beard, reddish-brown hair, and a long face.

As described, it sounds like the vehicle might be part of a stalking operation. However, this could be a red herring.

Between 8:10 PM and 8:15 PM, Witness #2 saw her south of Six Mile Waterworks, walking on grass with a smaller person (5’5”-5’8”, 120-140 lbs) urging her up an embankment. Karen's head was down and she appeared nervous. A white male in his early 20s, slim, with light hair and facial hair, trailed 50-100 feet behind, not closing the gap. Witness #2 also noted an unoccupied black sedan with a partial plate “239” and a possible bullet hole near Washington Ave Ext, which adds an eerie detail to the scene but could be a red herring.

At 8:20 PM, Witness #3 observed Karen at Fuller Road and Washington Ave, possibly waiting at a light, while a young male with sandy, messy hair, a jean jacket, and construction boots crossed nearby, not looking at her. A lime green Volkswagen Rabbit sat empty. The composite sketch of this male, aged 18-25, contrasts with the older, bearded man from the first sighting.

Not the exact car. Indicative of what a lime-green Volkswagen Rabbit might have looked like but no consideration for year.

Could the man in his 40s with a beard be the same individual in the sketch, perhaps misjudged in age or altered in appearance? Or is the composite sketch of this latter man, who is younger?

Commentary: Time Slips and Doubts in Karen’s Timeline After Leaving The Tanning Hut


The second witness painted a concerning picture, one that implies that Karen Wilson faced imminent danger between 8:10 PM and 8:15 PM. As described, she was walking nervously with a smaller figure urging her up an embankment while a man trailed behind. This is ominous, in my opinion, especially since we know that the night ends with her never being seen again.

Yet, if we are to take all the eyewitness accounts as gospel, then just minutes later at 8:20 PM, the third witness described her standing calmly at a traffic light. This is an innocuous act that implies she emerged unscathed from the earlier encounter and that nothing was amiss.

In my opinion, she was likely an abductee when she was being led up the embankment. The man trailing behind was perhaps a concerned citizen who realized that something was amiss. He trailed behind to monitor the situation from afar, not wanting to get too involved nor wanting to ignore something that he noticed. If the smaller individual is Karen's abductor, then it could be that he noticed that there was a witness, which caused the pressure to return to the sidewalk.

From this perspective, Karen survived whatever Witness #2 observed, but since we know she has been missing for decades now, something does not make sense about it all.

In my opinion, it’s likely the times aren’t precise between the witnesses. Human memory often blurs under stress or hindsight, and witnesses may have guessed or rounded their estimates. A few minutes’ misjudgment could unravel the order of events.

But it's clear enough that she was abducted, in my opinion. If she was not abducted, then it would be hard to accept her absence over the last forty years. She would be in a hospital or she simply would have gotten home safe and sound. The individual leading her up the embankment is the most clandestine in the descriptions. Perhaps this is the same person who crosses the street near her in Witness #3's description.

Karen Wilson Case: Key Witnesses and Suspect Descriptions from 1985

Here’s a list of all individuals mentioned, besides Karen Wilson, in the PDF file from Trooper.ny.gov.

1. Witness #1 (Female)

2. Male Driver (Witness #1’s Sighting)

3. Witness #2

4. Smaller Person (Witness #2’s Sighting)

5. Following Male (Witness #2’s Sighting)

6. Witness #3 (Male)

7. Crossing Male (Witness #3’s Sighting)
Karen Louise Wilson Disappearance: Witnesses, Suspects, and Timeline (March 27th, 1985)
Karen Louise Wilson, a 22-year-old SUNY Albany senior, was last seen leaving The Tanning Hut at 1670 Central Ave, Colonie, NY (Google Maps: 42.723098, -73.840189) at 7:20 PM on March 27th, 1985.
She was walking south along Fuller Road toward the SUNY Albany campus, a route described as dark but it must have had moderate pedestrian and vehicle traffic, as evidenced from the descriptions of the area on the night Karen disappeared.
Below is an account of key witnesses, individuals observed near her, and her movements, based on a PDF file from Troopers.ny.gov.
Witness #1 (Female), Sighted Karen at about 8:15 PM
  • Description: An unnamed female driving southbound on Fuller Road.
  • Observation: At about 8:15 PM, 55 minutes after Karen left The Tanning Hut, Witness #1 saw the missing person walking south near the Workingman’s Friend Gas Station and Sysco Food (west side of Fuller Road, south of Central Ave). Karen was near a guide rail, continuing her presumed route to campus.
  • Male Driver: A white male in his 40s, with a beard, reddish-brown hair, long nose, and an "intent look" on his face, drove a slow-moving vehicle nearby. Vehicle details are vague.
  • Location Context: By 8:15–8:16 PM, Witness #1 had passed Karen near Railroad Ave (42.680686, -73.829972). This indicates Karen's steady progress south.
Witness #2 and Sighting at about 8:10–8:15 PM
  • Description: An unnamed individual driving southbound on Fuller Road.
  • Observation: Between 8:10–8:15 PM, 50–55 minutes after leaving The Tanning Hut, Witness #2 saw Karen south of Six Mile Waterworks (135 Fuller Rd, Albany, NY 12205), just north of the I-90 underpass. She was walking on grass off the sidewalk, appearing nervous, with her head down.
  • Smaller Person: I presume him to be a male despite other sources saying the person's sex was unknown. He was 5’5”–5’8”, 120–140 lbs, walked shoulder-to-shoulder with Karen, and urged her up an embankment toward the Six Mile Waterworks area. They later returned to the sidewalk, walking normally south past the I-90 underpass (8:15–8:17 PM).
  • Following Male: A white male, approximately 5’11”, slim, in his early 20s, with light hair (gold to red) and facial hair, trailed 50–100 feet behind at a steady pace, not closing the gap. He wore dark pants and a waist-length jacket (possibly beige). This individual might have been a concerned observer rather than a threat. If that is the case, then it would explain why Smaller Person and Karen returned to the sidewalk, if the former realized he was being watched by a concerned citizen.
  • Additional Detail: Near Washington Ave Ext (south of the I-90 underpass), Witness #2 noted an unoccupied black sedan with a partial plate “239” and a possible bullet hole, adding an eerie but potentially unrelated element.
Witness #3 (Male) and Sighting at 8:20 PM
  • Description: An unnamed male leaving work at SUNY Albany, waiting at a traffic light.
  • Observation: At 8:20 PM, 60 minutes after Karen’s departure from The Tanning Hut, Witness #3 saw her standing alone on the northwest corner of Fuller Road and Washington Ave (42.686567, -73.821667), possibly waiting for the light to change. She was very close to SUNY Albany, suggesting she was nearly at her destination.
  • Crossing Male: A white male, 18–25, of average height, with sandy or light brown messy hair and a couple days’ facial hair growth, crossed Fuller Road west to east near the I-90 underpass. He briefly stepped toward construction trailers before heading south, not looking at Karen. He wore a jean or aviator jacket, jeans, flannel shirt, and tan construction boots. This individual is linked to a composite sketch associated with the case.
  • Additional Detail: As Witness #3 turned onto the I-90 entrance ramp (42.687398, -73.824028) at 8:20–8:21 PM, he noted an unattended lime green Volkswagen Rabbit parked nearby.
Analysis of Behavior and Timeline Enigma
Karen’s behavior across these accounts presents an enigma. At 8:10–8:15 PM (Witness #2), she appeared nervous while being urged up the embankment, suggesting possible distress or coercion by the smaller person.
Yet, by 8:20 PM (Witness #3), she stood calmly alone at the intersection, implying she was no longer in immediate danger. One possibility is that she escaped temporarily from a threatening situation near Six Mile Waterworks, reaching the intersection unscathed.
However, if she had been briefly abducted, logic suggests she might have called for help or shown visible signs of panic to passing motorists, which Witness #3 does not report.
What does the shift in demeanor within minutes—nervous to calm—mean? It could indicate imprecise witness timings, as human memory under stress often blurs details.
Alternatively, the embankment incident might not have been an abduction attempt, though her ultimate disappearance suggests something sinister occurred. I think the key points in all of this is simply that THREE different witnesses are providing details. With that, you cannot expect timing to be accurate to the minute.
Key Locations Summary
  • The Tanning Hut: 1670 Central Ave, Colonie, NY; Karen left at 7:20 PM.
  • Fuller Road (General Stretch): Her southbound route from Central Ave to SUNY Albany.
  • Near Sysco Food/Workingman’s Friend: Sighted at 8:15 PM by Witness #1.
  • South of Six Mile Waterworks/Embankment: Sighted at 8:10–8:15 PM by Witness #2, with the smaller person and following male.
  • Fuller Road and Washington Ave: Last sighted at 8:20 PM by Witness #3, near SUNY Albany.
Conclusion
Karen Wilson’s last confirmed location was the Fuller Road and Washington Ave intersection at 8:20 PM, steps from SUNY Albany. No evidence confirms she reached campus. The presence of multiple males and unattended vehicles (black sedan, Volkswagen Rabbit) near her path raises questions, but the shift in her behavior—from nervous to calm—remains unresolved, highlighting an enigma in the eyewitness accounts. This also serves to complicate the process of forming theories of her fate.

Nearby Serial Killers Incarcerated During Karen Louise Wilson's Disappearance

There are not any solid connections to known serial killers in the area. Any one that you might look at was imprisoned at the time, by my research.


Serial Killer Incarceration Status in March 1985 Ruled Out Reason Ruled Out
Arthur Shawcross Incarcerated (until April 1987 parole) In prison during Karen’s disappearance X
David Berkowitz Incarcerated (since August 1977) In prison during Karen’s disappearance X
Richard Biegenwald Incarcerated (since 1983 arrest) In prison during Karen’s disappearance X
Lemuel Smith Incarcerated (since 1981 arrest) In prison during Karen’s disappearance X

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