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What Happened to DB Cooper on November 24th, 1971? Top Scenario Explained!

By: Shane Lambert

The D.B. Cooper plane hijacking is a legendary unsolved mystery. The name is a false one given to a man who hijacked a plane in late November 1971. To this day, his identity remains unknown, and the debate regarding who he was has been alive for years.

In this article, I am changing perspectives a little. I'm not looking to find out what D.B. Cooper's real name was. Instead, I want to review what I think happened to Cooper on the night of the hijacking.

On this matter, I think one theory stands out as both simple and plausible: Cooper parachuted into the Columbia River or a tributary and met his end there. This is a previously supported theory, including with FBI agents.

The FBI artist rendering of the so-called D.B. Cooper

Review of the Events of November 24th, 1971: D.B. Cooper Hijacks a Plane

On November 24th, 1971, a man calling himself "Dan Cooper" boarded Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305. This flight was bound from Portland, Oregon, to Seattle, Washington, making it a short flight. Middle-aged, clad in a suit, and carrying a briefcase, he seemed like an ordinary airline customer. He stayed that way until he passed a note to a flight attendant claiming that he had a bomb.

At this point, Cooper demanded $200,000 in cash (worth about $1.5 million in 2025's terms). He also had an odd request: four parachutes in addition to the money.

Polite yet firm, Cooper showed wires and a battery which may only ostensibly have been connected to a bomb. But the crew took a "better safe than sorry" approach, and the plane landed in Seattle. At this point, the FBI delivered the ransom in 20-dollar bills. Importantly, these bills were serial-numbered. The FBI also included the parachutes, and Cooper released the 36 passengers but retained the crew on board.

He then directed the pilots to fly toward Mexico City, below 10,000 feet, with landing gear down and flaps at 15 degrees. Between 8:00 and 8:13 p.m., over southwestern Washington’s rugged terrain, Cooper lowered the rear airstair and leapt into the stormy night, the money tied to his waist. The crew felt a jolt but didn’t see him go. He vanished into that night and has not been seen since.

The Search for the Hijacker Failed

The FBI’s NORJAK investigation scoured the Pacific Northwest, but they found nothing in the immediate aftermath of the hijacking. It wasn't until 1980 that a lead developed when $5,800 of the cash surfaced on the Columbia River’s Tena Bar. This money was unearthed by a boy.

Despite 1,000+ suspects, Cooper’s fate remains unknown. Maybe you could say that his fate remains unknown because there were 1000+ suspects. The FBI having that many 'leads' to go through can only obfuscate matters. This unsolved U.S. skyjacking, regarding a man misnamed "D.B. Cooper," continues to captivate. It is the only American hijacking that remains unsolved.


Timeline of Key Events in the D.B. Cooper Hijacking

Date Time (PT) Event
November 24, 1971 2:50 p.m. Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305 departs Portland International Airport (PDX) for Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SeaTac), with "Dan Cooper" on board.
November 24, 1971 ~3:00 p.m. Cooper passes a note to a flight attendant claiming he has a bomb, beginning the hijacking.
November 24, 1971 ~3:20 p.m. Flight 305 lands in Seattle. Cooper demands $200,000, four parachutes, and releases the 36 passengers after receiving the ransom and parachutes, keeping the crew on board.
November 24, 1971 7:36 p.m. Flight 305 takes off from Seattle, heading toward Reno, Nevada, as part of Cooper’s demand to fly to Mexico City, with specific flight instructions (below 10,000 feet, landing gear down, flaps at 15 degrees).
November 24, 1971 8:00–8:13 p.m. Cooper jumps from the rear airstair of the Boeing 727 over southwestern Washington, near the Lewis River, with the money tied to his waist. The crew feels a pressure bump at 8:13 p.m., marking his likely exit.
February 10, 1980 Daytime 8-year-old Brian Ingram discovers $5,800 of Cooper’s ransom money buried at Tena Bar on the Columbia River’s north bank near Vancouver, Washington, the only physical evidence ever recovered.

The Columbia River: Features and Characteristics

I've hiked near the Columbia River at a couple of different spots, Invermere and Revelstoke. This river is one of North America’s mightiest waterways. Stretching over 1,200 miles from its source to the Pacific Ocean, it’s the largest river flowing directly into the Pacific from the western hemisphere, keeping in mind that the Fraser River, though bigger, empties into the Salish Sea.

The Columbia River's exact source is Columbia Lake, at 2,690 feet above sea level, in the Columbia Valley near Invermere, British Columbia. This is a serene and marshy area nestled between the Rocky and Purcell Mountains.

From there, it flows northwest through British Columbia, passing Revelstoke, BC. It later flows south and west through Washington and Oregon, draining a 258,000-square-mile basin. In the area near Cooper’s jump point, in southwestern Washington, the Columbia River is wide, deep, and fast-moving. The river, which terminates at the Pacific Ocean near Astoria, has depths reaching up to 124 feet and currents that can sweep objects far downstream. Its cold waters, fed by snowmelt and rain, carry a massive volume, averaging 265,000 cubic feet per second. The river’s bed is a tangle of sediment, logs, and rocks.

In late November, when Cooper jumped, the Columbia would have been a formidable force. Swollen by autumn rains and early snowmelt, its flow surges and was about 308,000 cubic feet per second in the region near the suspected drop zone (yes, I looked: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?site_no=14105700).

Water temperatures drop to around 40°F (4-5°C), and that would pose an immediate hypothermia risk to anyone submerged. The river’s surface can be choppy, whipped by seasonal storms and winds gusting through the rugged terrain. On November 24th, 1971, a storm battered the area, amplifying the river’s power and darkness, making survival unlikely for an unprepared parachutist landing in its grasp.

Source consulted for this section: Northwest Power and Conservation Council 

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Cooper's Likely Drop Zone: Map Coordinates of Relevant Places

While Flight 305 started its journey from Portland to Seattle, that leg is now backstory. Cooper’s real move came after the plane took off from Seattle at 7:36 p.m. (all times PT), heading toward Reno, Nevada, as part of his broader demand to reach Mexico City.

He jumped during this Seattle-to-Reno leg, between 8:00 and 8:13 p.m., over southwestern Washington. Though he instructed the crew to fly to Mexico City, Reno was the immediate refueling stop, making it the relevant destination for pinpointing his exit.

The table below maps this critical leg, alongside key related locations, with coordinates linking to Google Maps for a visual of where his fate likely unfolded. The coordinates are not necessarily exact, but will give readers a good indicator of the relevant areas.

Location Description Google Maps Coordinates
Plane Originated Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SeaTac), Seattle, WA - Departed for Reno 47.4502°N, 122.3088°W
Plane Destination Reno-Tahoe International Airport, Reno, NV - Where the plane was headed from Seattle 39.4991°N, 119.7681°W
Tena Bar Columbia River shore near Vancouver, WA - Where $5,800 of ransom was found 45.7180°N, 122.7580°W
Estimated Drop Zone Near Lewis River, southeast of Ariel, WA - Likely spot of Cooper’s jump 45.9667°N, 122.3167°W

The drop zone’s coordinates must be treated as broad rather than precise due to the plane’s speed and the 13-minute jump window. There are all kinds of factors, like wind and the weight of the plane, that could affect the vessel's trajectory. Notably, the plane was empty of passengers, carrying only Cooper and the crew after the 36 passengers were released in Seattle. This lighter load could have allowed the plane to fly faster than typical Seattle-to-Reno routes, which often carry full passenger loads and luggage.

A lighter aircraft reduces drag and fuel burn, potentially increasing speed beyond known averages. The variable speed, combined with the jump window and wind, makes the drop zone a broad estimate. While the other Google Maps coordinates are for exact spots, the drop zone is nowhere near exact.

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Tena Bar: The Place Where the Money Was Found in 1980

Tena Bar, where $5,800 of Cooper’s ransom money was found in 1980, is a sandy stretch on the Columbia River’s north bank near Vancouver, Washington, roughly 20 miles southwest of the estimated drop zone. On February 10th, 1980, 8-year-old Brian Ingram discovered the weathered $20 bills while digging at Tena Bar during a family camping trip. This was reported by The Oregonian and confirmed in a 2008 interview with Ingram. 

Readers should recall at this point that the FBI documented the serial numbers of the ransom money. The FBI’s NORJAK investigation verified that the serial numbers matched Cooper’s ransom, documenting the find in their public vault (vault.fbi.gov), often misspelling the site as “Tina Bar.”

The location, near the Fazio Brothers sand operation, was mapped at approximately 45.7180°N, 122.7580°W. In 2011, the Citizen Sleuths team, led by geologist Tom Kaye, analyzed the money’s condition and sediment at Tena Bar, confirming the site via GPS (citizensleuths.com). Their findings suggested the bills were deposited naturally by the river, supporting the theory that Cooper’s remains and money drifted downstream from the Lewis River area to the Columbia, where Tena Bar captured a small fraction of the loot.

If Cooper Went in the River, He Could be There a Very Long Time

How did the money get into the river? One way it could happen is if Cooper parachuted into the river himself with the money affixed to his waist.

After he drowns, currents would rip the money away from his body for sure. River currents and ocean currents will dismember a body if given the time. The river current would weaken whatever bonds Cooper used to secure the money, without any problem.

Conversely, the money could have fallen off Cooper as he parachuted. But here is why I treat this as a lesser scenario.

Firstly, if Cooper's losing his money, then that can only be taken to mean he is under duress. There's no way a ransomer lets his haul go unless it's absolutely necessary. This suggests a problematic parachute jump. If he didn't land in water, then you would think he would have been found in the land terrain, given the scale of the search and how much time has passed since November 1971.

But I think Cooper would have affixed the money to his waist incredibly securely before jumping. It's just something he is not going to be frivolous about: where the money goes, Cooper goes.

For me, the location of the money in the Columbia River means Cooper landed there with it, or he landed in a tributary. I would say that he was more likely to land in the Columbia just because of its size. Thus, my top guess as to Cooper's fate is simply that he parachuted into the river, upstream where the money was found.

How AI thinks it happened. 😂

People Lost in Rivers Can Stay Lost for Ages

There are a lot of missing people cases where someone known to have fallen into a river has stayed lost for decades and decades. Whatever rivers do to people who drown in them, they hide the remains well.

Remember that the money that D.B. Cooper lost was only found by the random digging of a child. It was not sticking out of the sand in an obvious way. Accordingly, it would not be surprising if D.B. Cooper is buried under river sediment and maybe even under water.

He could effectively be lost for all time or only likely to be found through a random event. That is especially the case since his case was deprioritized by the FBI in July 2016.

I think those looking for a satisfying answer to the mystery of what happened to him that night will simply have to take satisfaction in probabilities. If you accept that there's no way a ransomer is going to part with his money easily, then I think the balance of probabilities supports that Cooper's fate is tied to the same river or river network that the money was found in. He probably drowned because the money tied to his waist was found on the shores of a river.


Missing Marilyn Byskal: Unsolved 1974 Canoe Trip Disappearance in Manitoba

Missing Person: Marilyn Byskal

  • Learn about the mysterious disappearance of Marilyn Byskal, including details of the last known sighting, the extensive but fruitless 10+ day search, and why the prevailing theory makes the most sense.
  • Explore newspaper articles from the time of her disappearance and a sad classified ad from the time that highlights her family's grief.
Not the actual setting. AI-generated image with prompts for a fast-flowing river in the late spring in northern Manitoba.

Details (paraphrased) from a Government Source

Marilyn Byskal was last seen at about 7AM on June 20th, 1974, during a school-organized canoe and camping trip near Wabowden, Manitoba, Canada. She was 18 years old at the time.

According to the official report, she was last spotted in the morning at her tent as the group woke up along the Grass River. Most campers believed she may have fallen into the river’s fast-flowing waters, though no one witnessed such an incident. 

An extensive 10-day searanch of the water and surrounding ground was conducted, but it yielded no results—no body, no belongings, no clues. She has not been seen or heard from since.

Source: Canada’s Missing, Case Reference #2012020052 (accessed via RCMP website, last modified May 10, 2023).

Last Contact: June 20th, 1974 (Thursday).
Additional Reference: Wabowden RCMP, Case #2012-534333.

Last Location: Near the Grass River, 25 miles northwest of Wabowden, Manitoba, Canada. Whitewood Falls is mentioned at the DoeNetwork.
Age When Disappeared: 18
DOB: May 1st, 1956 (DoeNetwork)

Sex: Female
Height in Inches: 69 (5’9”)
Weight in Pounds (lbs): 150
BMI: Marilyn Byskal had a BMI of 22.06, calculated from her height (69 inches) and weight (150 lbs). This places her in the normal range by BMI standards—just an observation, as BMI isn’t a definitive indicator of health or lifestyle.

Ethnicity: White
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Scar or Distinctive Characteristic: None noted
Clothing and Accessories: No specific details were provided in the RCMP report

Transportation: No vehicle or specific transportation details noted. She was on a canoe trip, suggesting she was on foot or in a canoe before her disappearance.
Parents: Not listed in the source material

Clothing and Accessories
At the time of her disappearance on June 20th, 1974, no specific clothing or accessories were detailed in the RCMP report.

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Commentary and Research

By: Shane Lambert
Original Time of Writing: March 22nd, 2025

Has Marilyn Byskal Been Found?
As of the time of writing, Marilyn Byskal remains missing. Her case, now over 50 years old, is a cold one with little online buzz. There are no recent news updates or significant social media discussions breaking new ground.

Looking back at the journalism from the time of her disappearance, she received some minor attention in marginals in The Brandon Sun. There was also a larger article on July 2nd, 1974 in The Brandon Sun that mentioned she was a high school student on the cusp of graduation when she disappeared. Her disappearance turned the festivities around graduation into a more somber atmosphere. 

I think there were 12 people in her camping group, 10 students (including her) and 2 teachers. Here are some bullet points from the long article from July 2nd, 1974:

  • She went to the river when she woke up but returned to her tent (her toiletries and toothbrush were found back in her tent).
  • One important point is that the Grass River was only 2-3 feet deep at the point where students accessed the river. It was the speed of the river that was considered to be the risk. Aside from the journalism, I will later suggest that the temperature of the river would be a major risk as well.
  • Two students and a teacher had to paddle 20 miles to alert the RCMP, suggesting that it would have been tough for them, the police, to start an immediate search.

There seemed to be an extensive search. I would say that the search might have been longer than what Canada's Missing described with an estimated 12+ days, including the group she was with and the RCMP's search.



What stands out in her case is the lack of witnesses and the inconclusive search. The Grass River’s fast currents could easily sweep someone away.

Did she fall in, or did something else happen that morning? The group’s assumption of a river accident feels plausible, yet without evidence, it’s just a theory. An alternative theory might be that she fell prey to a campground stalker.

If she did fall in the river, then it's not surprising at all that the search didn't turn her up. Thomas William Richey is pretty much known to have fallen in a river and he has been gone for a lot longer than Marilyn. The same goes with Duane Ludwig Winget.

If fast-flowing water takes you away, then you might end up buried in sediment, either ashore or underneath the water, and that's a really good hiding spot -- for decades and decades and decades.

Beyond the River: Other Possibilities? It seems they were considered.

My research into this case suggests that some entertained the possibility that she survived her disappearance event. Consider the following classified advertisement from the summer of 1975, published about 13 months after she was last seen.

August 2nd, 1975. The Vancouver Sun.

The mention of Erickson, Manitoba, where our missing person was from, suggests enough to me that we are talking about the same case. The classified ad is likely nothing more than the family's unwillingness to accept that Marilyn had died.

You see this a lot with missing-person cases: the lack of a body means no conclusive death. That allows family members to keep hope alive for survival.

Yet, if two students and a teacher had to canoe 20 miles to find the RCMP, then I'm not sure how Marilyn woke up one morning and then just disappeared to Vancouver from northern Manitoba after doing little more than brushing her teeth.

I did find a marriage involving a same-name match in Surrey in May 1975 but the wedding picture looks very different. I won't republish the image but it's in the May 8th, 1975 edition of the The Surrey Leader. I wonder if this same-name match to the area, which looks like a different person entirely, spawned an effort for the family to look there and that's all the classified ad is about.

Marilyn Byskal Disappearance Theories

The best alternative theory to drowning would be a campground stalker, in my opinion. The missing person was someone who I think would have a general appeal for physical attractiveness to the male population. She was young and athletic.

September 8th, 2009. The Toronto Star.

There have been lots of campground stalkers in the past. I would think a high school field trip to the backwoods involving 10 girls/women would be a magnet for a campground stalker. Half of the horror movies from the 1970s and 1980s loosely resembled that plot.

Tragic Cases of Young Women Attacked at Campgrounds

The following table details cases where young women were targeted at campgrounds, highlighting the dangers of remote outdoor settings.

Date Location Victims
June 13, 1977 Camp Scott, Mayes County, Oklahoma, USA Lori Lee Farmer (8), Doris Denise Milner (10), Michelle Heather Guse (9)
May 24, 1996 Shenandoah National Park, Virginia, USA Julianne "Julie" Williams (24), Laura "Lollie" Winans (26)
May 1992 Beverly Beach State Park, Oregon, USA Melissa Sanders (20), Sheila Swanson (19)


It's a matter that might warrant mild interest. However, I do not believe that she fell victim to a campground stalker.

Campground Stalker Theory: Not Likely

Firstly, a 7 AM abduction time is weird in my opinion. If she went on a bathroom trip from her tent at 3AM and disappeared at that time, then I would be more partial to a campground stalker theory. The situation as it was, I would file "campground stalker" into the "very improbable" category. Especially since there is no hint of evidence of an abduction in anything that I read.

As for the disappearance involving the river sweeping her away. There isn't much I found weird at all. The theory made pretty good sense. If she did go into the water and drowned there, then it's not at all surprising that she has not been found. 

The only thing I found a bit weird was there was no description of a call for help and simply falling into a river is a little strange. If someone falls into a river from shore, I would think there would be moments where the person struggles but stays above water and these moments would involve a call for help. However, a quick submersion is possible as well, coupled with shock.

As for falling into the river without anyone pushing you, it is hard to picture. But there are all kinds of tripping hazards in natural settings, like rocks and roots. I would not be surprised if she went for a walk and fell in a little ways away from the camp.

Although it was June 20th, northern Manitoba has a subarctic climate. At that time of year, falling into water in the area would produce immediate shock. Even if the air was comfortable, bodies of water in the area would still be extremely uncomfortable due to snowmelt. I doubt the river water would be warmer than 10C.

What does all this mean? If Marilyn Byskal did fall into the Grass River, you or I won't generate a clue in finding her. So in the final analysis, I simply don't think researchers should work on this case unless they can link a known abductor to the area at the time of the disappearance. But going down that rabbit hole could be a colossal waste of time.

Edward Konrad Ludwig -- Missing From Banff National Park Since 1986

Details from Canada's Missing**

"On May 30, 1986, Edward Ludwig left his work site at Bow Valley Provincial Park, AB, to go boating on Lake Minnewanka in Banff National Park, AB. Mr. Ludwig was despondent when he left. His vehicle was located at Lake Minnewanka, AB and an unoccupied boat was found floating on the lake."


Missing Person: Edward Konrad Ludwig
Last-contact date: May 30th, 1986 (Friday)
The area where the MP was last seen: The Lake Minnewanka area of Banff National Park, less than ten minutes driving north from the town of Banff.
Link to government source: MP @ Canada's Missing

VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: Caucasian
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 27 years old
Birthdate: Edward Konrad Ludwig was born between May 31st, 1958, and May 30th, 1959 based on his reported age at the last date of reported contact.
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Scar: Chin
Height/weight: 6'3" and 194 pounds
BMI*: Edward Konrad Ludwig was in the normal range for BMI.
Tattoos: Edward Konrad Ludwig had no tattoos associated with his profiles.

No one has heard from Edward Konrad Ludwig since Friday, May 30th, 1986, when he was 27 years of age. This individual has now been missing for about 39 years as of early 2025.

His car was found near Lake Minnewanka in Banff National Park. This town is near the town of Banff and it is just 20 minutes or so driving west from Canmore, which is the town that Ludwig is missing from.

What stands out about this case is that he was reported to be "despondent" in his profile at Canada's Missing. Furthermore, his vehicle was found at Lake Minnewanka, and his empty "boat" was floating in the lake. The location of his boat, which was actually an inflatable raft according to journalism from 1986, is interesting because it really sounds like he fell in the lake or, perhaps, killed himself at the lake. 

There was a search of the area with dogs and divers employed. The missing person was a park ranger whose father was a judge, so I think a very diligent search would have been performed.

03 Jul 1986, Thu Calgary Herald (Calgary, Alberta, Alberta, Canada) Newspapers.com

Lake Minnewanka is a glacial lake, meaning that it is fed by melting snow off of the caps of the mountains in the area. You do not go into Lake Minnewanka unless it's absolutely at the peak time of summer. Even then, you would only go in the lake for about a minute, and if you don't mind a chill afterward. The water is very cold at this lake, and on May 30th, the day in 1986 when he went missing, the water would have been absolutely frigid. Even if it was a warm day for the region, it's the melting snowcaps that flow into the lake, and the water would still be freezing.

I waded in this lake in the summer of 2020. My feet were hurting from the lake-water temperature in only minutes. I didn't enter the water fully. But I noticed that people who did enter the lake only waded for moments although it was the summertime. The following video is one I made at Lake Minnewanka that day. Notice, that I can't stop talking about how cold the lake is.

When I read the case details, I don't see his raft drifting out to the middle of the lake without him in it. Furthermore, I don't see someone going out with him and then pushing him in and swimming to shore. The lake is so cold that even short swims in May would be incredibly risky. Whether he fell in the lake by accident or attempted suicide, someone submerged in Lake Minnewanka would be at risk of hypothermia.

To me, suicide via Lake Minnewanka doesn't sound like a comfortable death. However, it is hard to look past Canada's Missing description that states that this individual was despondent for some reason. 

Furthermore, I found no headlines mentioning suspected foul play in this case. Lastly, I lean toward suicide because this man was a park ranger and would have understood the risks of going out on the lake at that time of year. For sure, he would have been aware that he should not have entered the water if he cared about his health.

If a male drowns in a lake, then there is a known process that usually occurs. The individual sinks as water replaces oxygen in his body cavities. Then, the organisms that are still alive in the body continue to produce gases. These gases help bring the body to the surface. It's at this point when the body might be found and this initial process can take about a week. However, eventually, the gasses will be released and the body will sink -- perhaps for ages.

Women go through a similar process when they drown. However, extra body fat, especially in busty women, can help them float.

Finding Edward Ludwig now would mean staying open-minded to the possibility that any human remains found in the area are his. Due to how much time has passed since 1986, his body might not be intact.

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Michael Allen Wagar -- Missing Since Independence Day 2003

Details from NamUs**
Michael was helming a 15-foot aluminum boat on Lake Pend Oreille when the boat overturned in foul weather. 

Missing Person: Michael Allen Wagar
Last-contact date: July 4th, 2003 (maybe July 3rd)
The area where the MP was last seen: Bayview, Idaho
Link to government source: NamUs MP#6849 



VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: White/Caucasian
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 46 years old
Birthdate: Michael Allen Wagar was born between July 5th, 1956, and July 4th, 1957.
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Scar: No scars known
Height/weight: 5-foot-9 to 6-foot-0 and 150 to 180 pounds
BMI*: Michael Allen Wagar was in the normal range for BMI.
Tattoos: Michael Allen Wagar did not have any tattoos associated with his profiles. If you know that the missing person did have tattoos, then please post a remark at the end of this blog post on the matter.

Michael Allen Wagar was last heard from on July 4th, 2003 when he was 46 years of age. This individual is missing after a boating incident on Lake Pend Oreille. He has now been missing for 18 years as of the original publication date of this blog post. Given the circumstances, he is presumed dead and memorial services were held for him in mid-July of 2003.

Sat, Jul 12, 2003 – 17 · The Spokesman-Review (Spokane, Washington) · Newspapers.com

Lake Pend Oreille is a lake north of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. When someone falls into a lake and drowns it often sets forth this sequence of events, especially for males:
  1. First, the body sinks as water replaces oxygen in any interior cavities.
  2. Next, organisms that remain alive in the body continue to produce gases.
  3. When these gases fill the body, it can rise to the surface again.
  4. Decomposition and organisms or animals eating the body eventually cause the gasses to release and the body again sinks.
It's often after Step 3 that there's the best chance to find a drowned individual. Otherwise, he can remain lost in the water for incredibly long times. It's not really well known what happens to bodies that sink and remain lost in lakes for decades but the parts can become severed from one another over the years. When dealing with decades, you have to wonder how far the average flow of the water can take a body.

The missing person did not have any articles or items associated with his missing person's reports, at least of the sources that I consulted. However, there was a suggestion in one newspaper article I read that they recovered some of his effects. Reading the newspaper article below fills one with pessimism regarding the chances of finding Wagar. If Websleuths want to help with this case then it would be by looking at John Doe databases for unidentified people that are associated with the shores of the lake and the Bayview area. However, in cases like this, a full skeleton might not be found: even just a mandible on the beach could be of this missing person.

Sat, Jul 12, 2003 – 4 · The Spokesman-Review (Spokane, Washington) · Newspapers.com

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Author: Shane Lambert (Vancouver, Canada)
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Jonathan Eric Eiland -- Missing From Little Rock Since 2013

Details from NamUs**

"MP Jonathan Eiland was last seen on 05/31/2013 by friends whom he stayed with for a while. According to friends, MP Eiland was homeless with another friend and they both slept under the bridge on 28th Street in Little Rock by the University of Little Rock."
 

Missing Person: Jonathan Eric Eiland
Could be referred to as: J.J.
Last-contact date: May 31st, 2013
The area where the MP was last seen: Sherwood, Arkansas
Link to government source: NamUs MP#6849 



VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: Black
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 45 years old
Birthdate: This person was born between June 1st, 1967, and May 31st, 1968
  • When the birthdate isn't known, I calculate a range using the age at the date of the missing person's disappearance.
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown
Scar: None listed at NamUs
Height/weight: 5-foot-6 and 145 pounds
BMI*: Jonathan Eric Eiland was in the normal range for BMI.
  • BMI stands for body mass index. It is not foolproof but it can help understand what a person's figure looked like.
Tattoos: Jonathan Eric Eiland did not have any tattoos associated with his profiles. If you know that the missing person did have tattoos, then please post a remark at the end of this blog post on the matter.

Jonathan Eric Eiland was last heard from on May 31st, 2013 when he was 45 years of age. This individual has now been missing for 8 years as of the original publication date of this blog post.

What stands out with this case is that this individual was homeless at the time of his disappearance. Of course, it would be surprising if there was much media coverage affiliated with his disappearance due to this. Nothing really came up when I searched his name on newspapers.com conjoined with "missing."

Also, at the time of his disappearance, he was thought to be sleeping under a bridge. That will invoke questions of personal safety and health. 

The NamUs description says that the bridge he used for shelter was near the University of Arkansas at Little Rock. It also says that it was on 28th street, however, that may be "W. 28th Street." There is a waterway called Coleman Creek in this area and a small bridge at that point. I wondered if the missing person was using that exact bridge for shelter as I did not find any other ones in the area.

The description at CharleyProject indicates that Eiland's friend was found deceased after drowning. I found a news-media source online that reported on this event. There were reports of flash floods, tornado warnings, and missing people associated with Little Rock in early June of 2013.

Given that Eiland's friend may have been swept away in a flood, as one possible explanation for his drowning, it could be that Eiland suffered the same fate but as of yet simply has not been found. When people disappear in water, they can stay disappeared for very long times.

I found the following video on Twitter with user Laura Ruhl (@ScienceRuhls). The video shows Coleman Creek at the same bridge that I think Eiland used for shelter (I did a multi-point inspection, the pedestrian walkway is the same as are the street signs). Importantly, the flood that is depicted is not from the time frame when Eiland disappeared. However, I include the video because I think the raging water is indicative of what likely happened in 2013. You can clearly see how someone who was sleeping under the bridge would have been in grave danger of being washed away. Flash floods are floods that come without much warning


Below is a report out of Little Rock that shows there were flash floods in the state at about the time that Eiland was last heard from. Certainly, we can see how someone who sleeps under a bridge is at increased risk of dying in such weather-related events.



The microregion looks slightly forested and there are some thick bushes when I look on Google Maps. Due to Eiland's homelessness, it's likely that there wasn't exactly a large search party for him. However, if he did wash away in a strong current, he may have traveled away from this bridge at least a little ways. The flow of the water is south toward Fourche Creek, which only looks about a mile away. John Does found in this area should be cross-referenced against Eiland's case details.

I did a search on NamUs among the unidentified decedents and did not find that there were many in Arkansas for the time frame in question. However, the database gets updated all the time so readers can do their own searches.

Regardless of whether Eiland is found, one point that should be taken away from this case is that homeless people that sleep near rivers or creeks are in increased danger during flooding. It might be a clue in other similar missing person cases, where a missing person is known to seek similar shelter as the kind Eiland sought. In such cases, look for reports of flooding in the region.

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Author: Shane Lambert, (Freelance Writer)
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.
Shane Lambert, (Freelance Writer) is not a Private Investigator, however, he is currently studying to be one as of March 2021.
Website hashtag: #MPCSL

*For BMI values, I use the UPPER or HIGHER ranges that are given for height and weight.
**Text might be paraphrased. If taken verbatim, then grammar or spelling errors are not necessarily corrected from original sources.
Disclaimer: Non-opinionated information at this site generally comes from government sources like NamUs, Canada's Missing, or police reports. Other sources may be used at the writer's discretion.

Allen Walter Jimmy -- Missing in Alaska Since 1985

Details from NamUs**: 
Allen was last seen operating a boat which was found capsized on the Kuskokwim river up river from Napakiak.

Missing Person
: Allen Walter Jimmy
Last-contact date: August 23rd, 1985
The area where the MP was last seen: Napakiak, Alaska
Link to government source: NamUs #MP6628

VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: Alaska Native
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 21 years old
Birthdate: between August 24th, 1963 and August 23rd, 1964
  • I'm not sure of the exact birthdate for Allen Walter Jimmy but a date range can be calculated using his age at the time of the disappearance.
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown
Scar: None listed at NamUs
Height/weight: 5-foot-4 and 130 pounds
BMI*: Allen Walter Jimmy was in the normal range for BMI.
  • Please, Google-search BMI if you aren't familiar with the phrase. I think it's an important tool to be aware of when working on missing person cases.
No photo: This missing person's profile did not have a photo included at NamUs. I will attempt to look for one but if a photo can't be found, then please rely on BMI, height, weight, ethnicity, and other physical features to describe or picture the person. When a missing person doesn't have a photo, researchers can try to find a photo at Ancestry.com or at Newspapers.com.

Tattoos: Allen Walter Jimmy did not have any tattoos associated with his profiles. If you know this to be a mistake, then please contact this site.

Allen Walter Jimmy was last heard from on August 23rd, 1985, when he was 21 years of age. This individual has now been missing for 36 years as of the original publication date of this blog post.

What stands out with this case, is that the boat that he was last seen in was found capsized. Furthermore, his clothing description would suggest that he wasn't wearing a lifejacket.

Allen Walter Jimmy may have had the following articles when he disappeared: blue jacket, "non-floatation" vest, blue jeans, and black rubber boots. The NamUs description seemed to make a point to stress that his vest wasn't a life preserver. Furthermore, I think rubber boots would inhibit swimming and thus be a strong handicap if he did fall into the river

When it comes to missing people, clothing can be very important. Clothes and items can be used to try and match a missing person to a John Doe.

I had trouble finding a news article on this disappearance in the newspaper.com database. Furthermore, I had trouble finding this individual in Ancestry profiles. Instead, I focused on the river that he was last seen in close proximity to, the Kuskokwim River. This is a river where numerous articles over the years have been published online in relation to the keyword "capsized."

In one article I read at thestar.com, a man's boat capsized in September 2018. He was on "the Kuskokwim River near the village of Napakiak" making it sound like a similar event to that of Allen Walter Jimmy's disappearance. The man involved in the 2018 disappearance was not found until June 2019.

However, it is not uncommon for individuals who fall into a river to go missing for several decades. I will note two other articles on this website that have to do with individuals falling into a river and, as of the time of publication, each remains unaccounted for despite the passage of several decades.

Thomas William Richey is believed to have fallen in a river in Oregon in 1950 and he remains missing. Duane Ludwig Winget fell in a river in 1962 in the state of Washington and he has not been accounted for yet. 

What exactly happens to someone when they fall into a river and remain missing for decades is something I want to research in the future. Obviously, hypothermia and drowning are going to be the causes of deaths in most cases but one question I have is do the individual's remains stay close to the accident scene, or can they travel over great distances?

Tags that I've associated with this blog post are below.

Author: Shane Lambert
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.
Shane Lambert is not a Private Investigator, however, he is currently studying to be one as of March 2021.
Website hashtag: #MPCSL

*For BMI values, I use the UPPER or HIGHER ranges that are given for height and weight.
**Text might be paraphrased. If taken verbatim, then grammar or spelling errors are not necessarily corrected from original sources.
Disclaimer: Whenever possible, government sources are preferred for getting the details of a missing person's case. However, any source that the article writer deems reputable may be used.



Thomas William Richey -- Missing From Fishing Trip Since 1950

Details from NamUs**: "Thomas 'Tommy' Richey left home to go fishing on the Rogue River on July 11, 1950. He liked to fish in an area where there was a cable car above the river that you could move to the middle and fish from above. His fishing pole as well as several fish he caught were found inside the cable car. He has not been seen or heard from since that day. The cable car was braked in the middle of the river which is why it was presumed something happened causing him to fall or jump and ultimately drown. The cable car and fishing hole are located 4 miles outside Prospect, Oregon on Mill Creek Lane and 6 miles upriver from the Lost Creek Dam."

Missing Person: Thomas William Richey
Last-contact date: July 11th, 1950
The area where the MP was last seen: Prospect, Oregon



Link to government source: NamUs #MP51989

VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: White
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 16 years old
Birthdate: between July 12th, 1933 and July 11th, 1934
  • When the birthdate isn't known, I calculate a range using the age at the date of the missing person's disappearance.
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown, wore prescription eyeglasses
Scar: None known
Height/weight: 5-foot-9 to 5-foot-10 and 165 to 170 pounds
BMI*: Thomas William Richey was in the normal range for BMI.
  • BMI is body mass index. It relates to an individual's height and weight. I include it believing it can help picture a missing person or describe one.
Thomas William Richey, a missing person, was last heard from on July 11th, 1950 when he was 16 years old. He has now been missing for 71 years as of the original publication date of this blog post.

Since this individual has been missing for several decades some might think that it's pointless or futile to work on the case. However, in my opinion, there's not just the missing person to look at but historical matters involved and coming to better understand the issues that surround disappearances. This case did remind me of a few other cases and that's not to say that they are related in an investigative way.

Firstly, it reminded me of the case of Duane Ludwig Winget. This is an individual who has been missing since 1962. Winget was known to have fallen in a river while in a position directly above it and central to the river. He was performing a hand-over-hand military exercise crossing the Nisqually River when he lost his balance at the same moment that his safety equipment failed. Nearly 60 years later, he has yet to turn up.

Richey wasn't performing a military exercise when he went missing -- he was fishing. However, he seems to have been in a similar position relative to the river as Winget -- directly above it and central to the river. In neither case do we have someone jumping or falling from a bridge, nor do we have someone falling from a riverbank. Richey, judging by the position of his fishing rod and the fish he caught, was in a cable car. That much was communicated in the journalism that was published the day after his disappearance.

12 Jul 1950, Wed Medford Mail Tribune (Medford, Oregon) Newspapers.com

Picturing this cable car is important for making a reasonable guess as to what happened to Richey. I don't picture the kind of cable car that's associated with San Francisco transit. Instead, I picture the swaying small ones that you find in the mountains of western Canada and the western USA.

The picture below is of me in a cable car in the Rocky Mountains. If you have ever been in one, then you know that it doesn't always feel stable. I couldn't imagine trying to fish from one of these without causing it to tilt a little. 

In short, I do think that Thomas William Richey simply fell from the cable car and drowned in the Rogue River. It certainly isn't beyond belief that he has never turned up: after all, Winget was known to have fallen in a river from a similar position and he has yet to be found.


The other scenario that I considered with Richey was that he had been abducted. The case of Dario Cicolecchia was something that I thought of. He went fishing, he left his bicycle visible on the side of the road, and a passerby that happened to be a pedophile saw it. However, Dario was fishing from a shoreline, while Richey's fishing pole and the fish he caught were found in the cable car. Abduction from a cable car would be difficult.

Fishing isn't passive in any sense. There is tugging, pulling, and fighting for balance. Fishing from a cable car just doesn't sound like a safe thing to do. This missing person is likely due to youth-related poor judgment. If he is found, the remains are likely to be skeletal and I would imagine scattered. 

I did receive a reply to this article by an individual that identified as the person who opened the missing person case for Thomas. This is what was communicated from her:

"When I opened the missing persons case that appears on NamUs I didn't quite have all the details of the disappearance yet and just wanted to have DNA collected to compare to Tommy's brother (still alive) to see if there was a match in CODIS. Unfortunately, we did not get any results from that. The cable car in this case is still the most mind-boggling part. It was reported to some degree and I also discovered that the cable car had a puller and winch that had to be used manually to stop, start, and brake the cable car. Tommy's brother and dad are the ones who originally went to the cable car when looking for Tommy and discovered the fish, rod and creel inside it. It was in the middle of the river and Tommy's brother had to shimmy the cable line hand over fist to get into it. Also, Tommy's brother insists the cable car was not something you could easily fall out of. While they didn't actually fish from the cable car itself, the boys used it to cross the river to seek out better fishing areas. 

The cable car was built and placed near Prospect on the Rogue River by the Army Corps of Engineers who were scouting the area for a potential dam site in the 1930s. The Lost Creek Dam is what eventually transpired from this endeavor. I have contacted the Army Corps of Engineers to see if they have records of what the cable car looked like since I cannot find anything even remotely close to what Tommy's brother describes. Unfortunately I haven't gotten anything worthwhile. The cable car is described as being 7 feet in length, 4 ½ -5 ft wide and about 5 feet high and made of lumber with metal strapping.

An accidental fall resulting in drowning was the main conclusion that law enforcement drew to explain Tommy's disappearance. After a week-long search, the community was asked to keep an eye out for his body. No trace of Tommy's body, clothing, or glasses has ever been recovered. As the decades have passed, there has been some speculation as to whether or not Tommy may have staged the scene and purposely went missing, either of his own free will or some type of foul play. However, there has been very little evidence to support these theories either. I believe understanding more about the cable car may help shed some light on what really happened.

Thank you for taking an interest in this case. Even if we never find out what really happened, I appreciate that his story is being told.

Thanks,
Heather V."

Please, share this article to social media using hashtags that are related to where the missing person went missing from, which is Prospect, Oregon.

Author: Shane Lambert
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.
Shane Lambert is not a Private Investigator, however, he is currently studying to be one as of February 2021.
Website hashtag: #MPCSL

*For BMI values, I use the UPPER or HIGHER ranges that are given for height and weight.
**Text might be paraphrased. If taken verbatim, then grammar or spelling errors are not necessarily corrected from original sources.
Disclaimer: Whenever possible, government sources are preferred for getting the details of a missing person's case. However, any source that the article writer deems reputable may be used.


Larry Bennett -- Missing from Manitoba Since 1981

Details from NamUs**: "On September 25, 1981 at approximately 7:30 p.m., Lawrence (Larry) Bennett left Princess Harbour, Manitoba in his boat heading for Matheson Island. He left with his sheepdog, and the trip should have taken 20-25 minutes. When he left he was traveling straight into the wind, and the water was reported as being rough. Mr. Bennett never arrived at Matheson Island. Mr. Bennett is presumed to have drowned, his remains have never been recovered."


Missing Person: Larry Geroge Bennett
Last-contact date: September 25th, 1981
The area where the MP was last seen: Princess Harbour, Manitoba
Link to government source: Canada's Missing 2013000102 

VITAL DETAILS

Ethnicity: White
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 25 years old
Birthdate: Born in 1956 so range would be January 1st, 1956 to September 25th, 1956
Hair: Black, had a beard
Eyes: Brown
Scars: No, but numerous tattoos on the right arm
Height/weight: 6-foot-1 and 225 pounds
BMI*: The missing person was overweight by BMI at the time of the last contact.

Larry Bennett has not been seen since September 25th, 1981 when he was 25 years old. This isn't a mysterious case from some points of view. It appears as though he drowned in what would be Lake Winnipeg.

One question I had when I read the report is regarding what happened to his sheepdog. Dogs are not poor swimmers so I wondered if the dog might have survived a mishap, even if Larry Bennett drowned. However, I didn't find any news coverage for this missing person case.

Lake Winnipeg is a very large lake that is a major part of the waterways in Canada. The lake is the watershed for a lot of the prairie areas east of the Canadian Rockies and the waters of Lake Winnipeg itself head further east.

When someone drowns in a lake what is expected is the following process:
  1. They sink as their body fills with water.
  2. After they die, there are organisms in the body that remain alive. These organisms produce gases.
  3. When these gases fill the dead body, there is increased potential for it to rise to the surface of the lake.
  4. The body will eventually sink again as the gases inside are released.
What happens after a body sinks for a second time is anyone's guess. It would have a lot to do with average forces in the microregion of the lake, like the average flow rate. I think it's possible for someone's skeletal remains to stay at the bottom of the lake for ages, especially in Canada where lakes freeze over. That said, if you learn of any John Does in the larger region around Matheson Island and Princess Harbour, then think of Larry.

If you know where this person might be or have any information on this case, then please contact the authorities. In Canada, look for Canada's Missing website. Conversely, you can post a remark to this article.

Author: Shane Lambert
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.
Shane Lambert is not a Private Investigator, however, he is currently studying to be one as of February 2021.
Website hashtag: #MPCSL

*For BMI values, I use the UPPER or HIGHER ranges that are given for height and weight.
**Text might be paraphrased. If taken verbatim, then grammar or spelling errors are not necessarily corrected from original sources.
Disclaimer: Information posted is thought to be correct as of the time posting.



Daniel Kaiser-Küblböck -- Missing at Sea Since September 2018

Author: Shane Lambert
Original Time of Writing: January 12th, 2021

Tue, Sep 11, 2018 – A12 · The Province (Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada) · Newspapers.com


All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.

Missing person: Daniel Kaiser-Küblböck
Last-seen date: September 9th, 2018 at about 5AM in the morning
Last-seen location: Off the coast of Canada while on a cruise ship

Ethnicity/Race: Caucasian, a German national
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 33 years old
Hair: Brown
Eye color: Brown

Daniel Kaiser-Küblböck went missing after jumping overboard from a cruise ship early in the morning of September 9th, 2018. This happened at sea with the closest country being Canada. 

The Canadian authorities executed a search for the German pop singer, however, they were not able to locate him. It's unlikely that he would have survived very long in the water, even if he was intact enough to swim after jumping from the cruise ship into the sea. The search focused on a nautical area about 200 kilometers north of St. John's. It was ended on September 11th, 2018.

Ocean currents are very difficult for experts to predict. Those that try will usually work with averages.  If you took two identical objects and placed them side-by-side in a sea or ocean then they would drift apart immediately and, if they went to shore, then they could still be very far apart. There is simply no telling where any of the missing person's remains might have ended up. Like a lot of missing person's cases that involve being lost at sea, this isn't one that Websleuths or amateurs should be devoting much attention to.

In fact, there are missing person's cases where the people went into the water due to a wave that encroached the shoreline. In one case, two people who are missing for nearly 20 years were 'lost at sea' when they were at a well-known beach. If people who get lost at sea from a beachside last-known location can't be traced, then it's super-futile to try and trace someone who is lost to the ocean hundreds of kilometers from civilization. It will take incredibly luck for this person's remains to be found, not investigating skill.

Kami Luella Vollendroff -- Missing Since November 2001, Thought to be Drowned

Author: Shane Lambert
Original Time of Writing: January 9th. 2021
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.

Mon, Nov 25, 2002 – Page 2 · Statesman Journal (Salem, Oregon) · Newspapers.com

Missing person: Kami Luella Vollendroff
Last-seen date: November 21st, 2001
Last-seen location: Newport, Oregon at what sounds like an oceanview condo of a relative's near Depoe Bay
Link to Government Source: NamUs #MP6781
Ethnicity/Race: White
Sex: Female
Age at time of disappearance: 16 years old
Hair: Blonde streaks in hair
Eye color: blue
Height and weight at the time of disappearance: 5'7" and 130 lbs
Clothing: black pants and a white sweatshirt

Commentary and opinion

Kami Luella Vollendroff went missing at the same time as her boyfriend, Eugene Hyatt. In the journalism from the time of these two people's disappearance, it was noted that they were going walking beachside in Newport, Oregon at Depoe Bay.

The day in question saw storms in what is an area noted for large waves. It is thought that these two people were lost to the sea when a wave knocked them from a cliff. This was partly thought because an article of clothing thought to be of Eugene's washed up on shore. 

This is not a case that I recommend working on for amateur investigators or Websleuths. Lost at sea quite often means lost for all time.

When people go into the ocean in tumultuous areas, the swell and undertow might dismember their corpses in days. If anything, there is a chance that individual bones might be in the sand around this area. The news from Newport could be scoured for keywords associated with individual bones or body parts found on the beaches of the area, like a mandible.

In situations like these, sometimes people think "What if they ran away." It's important to note that 20 years have now past and there has been no communication from them. Ideas of them disappearing, entering society under different names, doing that successfully, and never thinking to bring closure to their families are too fanciful to accept.

Sun, Nov 25, 2001 – 13 · Longview Daily News (Longview, Washington) · Newspapers.com

Garry Stuart Allen -- Missing After Boating Accident Since October 1978

Author: Shane Lambert
Original Time of Writing: January 5th, 2021
All articles are subject to editing after the original posting.


Missing person: Garry Stuart Allen
Last-seen date: October 17th, 1978
Last-seen location: Turtle Lake
Link to Government Source: Canada's Missing
Sex: Male
Age at time of disappearance: 35 years old
Hair: Looks brown or dirty blonde in picture
Eye color: Hazel
Height and weight at the time of disappearance: 5'10" and 150 lbs
Ethnicity/Race: White

Garry Stuart Allen went missing after a boating accident on October 17th, 1978. He was at Turtle Lake with a friend, a large lake that's near Glaslyn, Saskatchewan. The lake has an outlet in the form of the Turtle River and this river tributes the North Saskatchewan River. Water in this river ends up in Lake Winnipeg. However, there's no need to get fanciful with where he is: Garry Stuart Allen is probably at the bottom of the lake still.

Lakes in this region are not warm enough for swimming in mid-October. If someone's boat capsizes and they can't get to shore quickly then they are facing the threat of hypothermia. At 150 pounds for weight, Allen didn't appear to have much body fat as insulation for what would have been uncomfortably cold water.

When someone drowns, he sinks as the air in his lungs is replaced by water. The body might come back to the surface during the putrefaction process. During this process, gasses form in the body because dead bodies still have living organisms inside of them. It's these organisms that emit gasses, like carbon dioxide, that stay in the body and make it buoyant again after originally sinking (entire paragraph paraphrased from Moment of Science "Why Do Corpses Float" by Danit Brown/Jan 21 2016).

It may take about a week for a drowned body to return to the surface of a lake. In fact, Garry Stuart Allen went missing along with his friend on the lake. This friend, Paul Wallace, was found about a week after the boating accident according to a news article in Saskatchewan's The Leader Post (note: Allen's age of 25 is incorrect in the news article; he was 35 as per Canada's Missing and as per his family tree at Ancestry).

https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2014002649&id=14
https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2014002649&id=14 Tue, Oct 24, 1978 – 1 · The Leader-Post (Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada) · Newspapers.com

What likely hurt the chances of finding Garry Stuart Allen is the size of the lake. Turtle Lake is 21 kilometers long and about 5 kilometers across at some points. The search area would have been large at a time of year when the temperature is dropping in an area that's getting close to the subarctic. If the body isn't found after the gasses from putrefaction bring it close to the water's surface, then the lake freezing over in the winter would make finding the body next to impossible until the spring. The area has freezingly cold winter temperatures.

What effect -40-degree-Celsius or Fahrenheit (-40 is about the same by both scales) would have on a body's buoyancy isn't something I know. But based on the fact that Turtle Lake is popular and that Stuart hasn't been found in over 42 years makes me think that you don't stay at the surface. Turtle Lake isn't remote: there are hotels, adventure-tours, and beaches. There have been lots of eyes on the lake's surface for the decades since Stuart went missing.

The best chance of finding him is just that his body washes up somewhere near the shore at some time in the future. On that matter, websleuths or amateurs have access to information about broken bones. Any John Doe coming out of this lake with fractures in the shoulders, chest, ribs, jaw, and right arm would match Stuart's known physical condition in life.

Importantly, there may be other people missing in this lake. I found an article that someone named William Hutchings went missing in the lake in August of 1940. I found no article mentioning that he had been found (Star Phoenix, August 16th/1940).

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